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02 December 2010

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David Eldon

No arguments there. As to your comment "Finally, the true fault lies in the Americans' inability to keep their secrets secret." - hence my Blog title - "Never Put in Writing ... "

Peter

I accept your point that Arab leaders were not the only ones to have been shown to be hypocritical and duplicitous. However, as they practice in matters of war and peace, and life and death, as opposed to just some meaningless tittle tattle,I think they win the gold medal by a wide margin.

As for privacy, I think it deserves the utmost respect when it is private. Generally speaking, I think governments are far too secretive when conducting the public's business, including in most of these recently released cables. In public affairs, sunshine is the best disinfectant.

Finally, the true fault lies in the Americans' inability to keep their secrets secret. In this regard, they got what they deserved, methinks.

David Eldon

In relation to the comment attributed to Ricky Gervais, it is a neat soundbite but I would say it is not entirely practical. First let us not confuse "facts" and "opinions". The opinion of an individual, or indeed the slant they can put on that opinion is not necessarily fact. (A bit like the name chosen by the commentator - Mr Assange; really?). Secondly, I think in all our lives we come across situations where the truth is best kept amongst those who need to know - not the many who would exploit that truth to their own benefit and NOT make the world a better place as a result. What you are effectively saying is that ALL communication should be open and available for everyone to see. You therefore appear to take the view that privacy is not a right. Of course you are entitled to that view, but I cannot agree with it.
On the comment about Mr Assange (I presume the real one - not the previous author on the Blog) performing a public service, I do agree the Americans can absorb the embarrassment (although I think it is a lot, not a little), but the notion that it exposes "rank hypocrisy and duplicity" in the Arab world is not broad enough. Surely, if the opinions that have been relayed in private correspondence are accepted as at least "near truths", then it exposes universal hypocrisy and duplicity of so-called leaders everywhere, not only the ones you have singled out in the Arab world.

Peter

On balance, Mr. Assange has performed a public service. The Americans can absorb a little embarrassment and it is a small price to pay for exposing the rank hypocrisy and duplicity of the so-called leaders of the Arab world.

Mr Assange

As Ricky Gervais of The Office fame put it: "The truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, in the end leads to liberation and dignity."

jeremy

Shut down Assange(those vicious Swedes!) and another one will pop up. It doesn't cost much to run such an operation and there will always be those attracted to the fame/notoriety. Well, a more measured and tactical editorial intelligence can go a long way in making the WikiLeak concept more acceptable.

And wait till someone figures out a workable revenue model a few years down the road! That'll make it even more interesting.

We still have not seen half of what a universally free (in all senses of the word) flow of information can do. There will be many more fantastic benefits, and more ills to come out of it - and we'll have to learn to deal with both.

Sometimes, it can take many years before history decides whether a particular development was for the better or for worse.

Robert

Certainly the wisest analysis in the International media that I have read. How refreshing to hear a perspective view. Assange's personal behaviour strongly suggests a mischief maker. Being wanted by Interpol rather suggests a wolf portraying itself as a lamb!

David Eldon

Thank you for your comment. I don't actually disagree with the concept you put forward as Governments of course do need to hear the unvarnished truth (although they themselves seem to find it difficult to pass on the same courtesy to their public on occasions). But I would contend that the language of diplomacy could have enabled the author to convey the appropriate message without it being so likely to cause offence or be used inappropriately.

Lyall Boswell

Surely you miss the point. Governments need to hear unvarnished opinions from their people in the field. They need this information to make informed decisions. Your maxim simply does not and can not apply here. If it did then modern diplomacy would cease to exist. As someone who reached such senior heights in your chosen field it is odd that you do not see this.

Andrew

"Are we so technologically incompetent that even if we had grounds to do so and wanted to block or close down his website we cannot?"

Pretty much. Wikileaks has a very sophisticated set up for exactly that reason. It makes it very hard to take down.

For what it's worth, the Wikileaks site is currently under a Distributed Denial of Service attack (DDoS) to try and disable it. The size of that attack is approx. 10GB per second of requests hitting their servers (like downloading a DVD every second - and you know how long that normally takes!).

They've protected themselves by switching over to Amazon's cloud computing network - which can absorb the impact. Wacky!

Ok, I've finished nerding out now.

hans.olijv

maybe the leaks show what everyone knows about everyone anyway..however putting it out in the public does put a strain on someone meeting another person knowing that the other person now knows what he really thinks about that person ..awkward glances will be made..but for sure trust if there was any...will be on a low tide now..whenever people want to discuss something in private..for your ears only...but not for everybody's eyes to read and know...

hans

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