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28 February 2009

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hans olijve

Good..hope she learned a lesson..but media always like to applaud the bad news instead hurraying the good news..

Alton Yam

It was shock that Mr Elden describe Fiona's questions is gibberish, particularly Eric Knight of Knight Vinke Asset Management asked in Jan“Why should HSBC's shareholders take all the pain when Household bondholders are unsecured?” ,“Why should the HSBC board carry on just to save their own reputations when many other banks in the world are now considering similar moves?” Maybe we should bear in mind at the time of 2002 when HSBC acquire HouseHold Mr Elden is Executive Director of HSBC Holdings.

David Eldon

Thank you for the comment, and you are correct that I was an executive director of the bank at the time of the Household acquisition. Even with the benefit of hindsight, and based on the information that was available at the time, did the transaction make sense? Almost certainly yes, and therefore it would probably be done again. So what would be changed? Probably the way in which the acquisition was managed. HSBC (again with hindsight) should have put its own people in at the top.
But you are confusing issues. The question from Fiona was not about Household, but it was more general. Also the question was not gibberish; it was quite well written but I said it was not very intelligent.
It might interest you to know that I have subsequently met face to face with Fiona and explained to her exactly where I was coming from, and I have listened to her also.
Playing the "blame game" is all too easy when you have the benefit of hindsight - but as I said to Fiona, you have to keep things in broad perspective and not be so narrow.

jeremy

Fiona's questioning was definitely poor. And Alton, do you have any idea how large organizations work and what David's position on the Household acquisition in 2002 was? This tarring with broadbrushes is very lazy.

Along with the punishment HSBC has been receiving, I also can't believe the HKMA has been getting so much flak....there are many worse regulators out there!

Sloppy thinking in the mass media played a huge part in cheer-leading the bubble and now are working hard to dig us deeper into the hole.

Much talk has been devoted to aligning executive compensation with longterm sustainability of banks (imagine if Chinese banks, rather than completely privatise, went the SEB way). But attention should also be paid to ensure that quality, intelligent, reporting in the normal newspapers that the man on the street reads does not become extinct.

Britain, which has probably the best journalists in the world, also has the worst gutter presses. Absent British traditions of tolerance, moderation, and intellectual traditions; a thriving gutter press can really do some real damage in Asia.

BTW, this blog is becoming a must-read, only other ex-banker blog I follow except for Vernon Hill at Bankstocks (for different reasons though)

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